Update for December 2017. The good news is that there will be no Ocean Park for Turtle Bay. Now the property owners have put up an inflatable floating water park with eco-tours in kayaks in the mangroves. A better idea than the Ocean Park for this bay. If too many people start jumping around and wear sunblock it will not be good for the fish nursery area but it is definitely a much less shock to the ecosystem than the proposed Ocean park and its hotels with underwater rooms.
I hope they will consider having the restaurant open without having to do the inflatables as we were one of their best customers when they just had the resort with swimming, snorkeling, and diving.
The water park will open Dec. 11, 2017
According to my friends with kids who would avail of this, the water park is quite expensive.They should offer packages that don't include the lunch and open the restaurant without an entrance fee.
They were not quite done with the installation when this photo was taken Nov. 30th, 2017
I was lucky enough to get an appointment with current DENR chief, Secretary Gina Lopez. She listened to my plight about Turtle Bay and was made aware of the otters and other issues with the Ocean Park.
Present were Sec. Lopez, myself (Diana Limjoco), Atty. Adele Villeno of PSCD, DENR Atty. Leo Jasereno, and Dir. Mundita Lim of DENR.
Atty. Jasereno verified that Seven Seas Properties' ECC permit has expired but that they have applied for an extension but DENR, Manila has not yet approved the renewel. In spite of this, Seven Seas has begun to construct the engineers house and have told workers they plan to build the Ocean Park in December.
Recently 80 Barangay residents have come forth and signed a form saying that they were not given a vote on the Ocean Park. That the meeting they attended required an attendance signature, but those signatures were used as their approval without their knowledge. This has been turned over to the local PENRO.
My petition against the Ocean Park has received, as of this writing, 10,309 signatures. Which we hope Sec. Lopez will review and realize that more people than not do not want this delicate bay to be ruined by a greedy developer.
LtoR: Alysha, Diana J. Limjoco, Sec. Gina Lopez
Atty. Adelle Villega, DENR Dir. Mundita Lim,
DENR Atty. Leo Jasereno
Explaining the consequences of the Ocean Park in Turtle Bay
to Sec. Gina Lopez and DENR Atty. Leo Jasereno.
Sec. Lopez has asked Dir. Mundita Lim to work with me to come up with a more sustainable eco Tourism answer for the bay, and one that will help the residents with livelihood.
(My two cents is that these marine sanctuaries should remain just that. Diana)
The online news portal of TV5
MANILA, Philippines -- A Puerto Princesa City native is
protesting the construction of a resort at Turtle Bay, Palawan, saying the
development would put wildlife at the marine sanctuary at risk.
Click photo to enlarge Turtle bay- palawan
Diana Limjoco, on her blog
(www.save-turtlebay-palawan.blogspot.com), wrote Thursday last week that Seven
Seas Properties Inc.’s proposed development would “totally mar and even destroy
the ecosystem in the bay.”
She described Turtle Bay as “a beautiful natural ocean park”
with a mangrove nursery where fish and other sea creatures thrived, including
“the already vulnerable” Asian small-clawed otter.
Beautiful Turtle bay- Across on the far side is where Seven seas will put the Ocean Park. Why would anyone want to see so many unnatural buildings when this bay is fine the way it is?
Photo by Puerto Princesa City
She added that because Turtle Bay is a small peninsula,
“they will have to totally remove any natural vegetation to put in all those
buildings.”
“Otters live along its mangrove habitat and frolic in the
moonlight, chattering away. This bay is a natural gem, why put in a fake ocean
park when the one there is fine the way it is?” she asked. “It will totally mar
and even destroy the ecosystem in the bay.”
Asian small clawed otters were not considered in
any environmental study of Turtle and
Binunsalian Bays.
On her Facebook page, Limjoco cited a 1992 Sangguniang
Panglungsod ordinance declaring Turtle Bay and Binunsalian Bay a marine
sanctuary.
The ordinance defines “marine sanctuary” as “that portion of
the municipal waters and its immediate marine environs where fish and other
marine inhabitants are protected from any maritime activity, including, but not limited to exploitation and/or
utilization, except by sustenance/marginal fishermen.”
In a phone interview with InterAksyon.com, Seven Seas vice
president for sales and marketing Armi Cortes told InterAksyon.com that the
property will be built in an isolated location of Kamia Bay, which is part of the larger Turtle Bay.
Commenting on reservations about the development, she said:
“I think a lot of people think we are building on the seabed. We are not
disturbing the seabed. We are building on land.” (Why is it on their website? Isn't this misleading the public? Also there is NO isolated portion..this peninsula is steep and narrow.)
As in Manila Ocean Park’s adjacent Hotel H2O, both of which
are Seven Seas affiliates, the proposed Kamia Bay property would not be
underwater. Rather, aquariums would be built, and rooms constructed around them.
Cortes added that the offerings on their website are just
“general concepts.”
“Of course, the general concepts can still change depending
on government approval. If some of the plans are, for instance, not amenable to
government, then we will have to change it so that we are compliant,” she said.
Tranquil and important, is Turtle bay. Home to
many species of marine life, plants, birds, 108 kinds of
molluscs, And a population of Asian small clawed otters.
She added Manila Ocean Park actually uses water from the
Manila Bay and filters it so that it returns to its natural, pure state. “We actually never pollute waters. We clean the waters that
we manage around that.” She also touted its breeding programs, which allowed Manila
Ocean Park to hatch two penguins. “This is only possible if your animal safety standards are
international. If in the first place we do not take good care of them (the
animals), they will not breed. The breeding is only possible when the
conditions are almost similar to what it is in nature,” Cortes said. (Bulldozing any part of the very narrow area of Kamia bay resort will allow mud to flow into the bays. The mouth of the bays is very narrow. Many species may be affected by the excess mud and particulates)
The multi-sectoral and inter-disciplinary body Palawan
Council for Sustainable Development, which is under the administration of
the Department of Environment and
Natural Resources, already issued Seven Seas a SEP clearance in October last
year. This clearance is a requirement before the DENR can grant an
Environmental Clearance Certificate so construction can begin.
A copy furnished by PCSD to InterAksyon.com showed that the
SEP clearance was issued based on terms and conditions such as: “No
introduction of exotic species,” and “Should the implementation of the project
cause adverse environmental impact and pose nuisance to public health and
safety determined by the PCSDS (Palawan Council for Sustainable Development
Staff),
At the mouth of Turtle and Binunsalian bays.
It is already a rare and beautiful marine park.
these factors shall be sufficient ground for cancellation or
suspension of the clearance.” (Does that mean that native whale sharks, dolphins and dugongs are ok to capture for their exhibits? Scroll down to see an incomplete copy of the SEP permit which was not even signed properly)
The SEP clearance was approved by Palawan Governor Jose
Alvarez, who chairs the PCSD. PCSD executive director Nelson Devanadera, in a phone
interview with InterAksyon.com, said the terms and conditions of the clearance
are “consistent with the national policy of government and the Biodiversity
Management Bureau” regarding the introduction of exotic species, as well as the
“promotion of nature and wilderness pertaining to tourism industry” and the
“promotion of indigenous species of Palawan.” (By the time Seven Seas is done with this property there will no longer be any wilderness...get real. See photo below of their idea of nature and wilderness..they have totally removed some of the last timberland in Boracay WITHOUT AN ECC PERMIT)
This is what Seven Seas has done to Puka Beach, Boracay without an ECC permit. I am told they continue to build and they just keep paying the fines.This was the last pristine beach there.
Devanadera said that Seven Seas could opt to showcase the
indigenous species of Palawan, instead. If it would introduce foreign species,
he said, “It could be under scrutiny by the Biodiversity Bureau, under scrutiny
by the Palawan Council for Sustainable Development.”
This is Turtle bay. The opposite shore is where
Seven Seas Properties plans to build their man
made ocean park. Isn't it beautiful the way it it?
The project should also have an education component, and
Devanadera said that he was going to write a letter to Seven Seas management
saying PCSD could be a partner in this regard. Asked if the project was a legal
one given that Turtle Bay was a marine sanctuary, Devanadera said that it is
the Sangguniang Panglungsod that has jurisdiction over the matter.
To allay apprehensions and possible rejections from the
community, Devanadera said, “What I can tell them is that consistent also with
the national policies of government are the policies of the Palawan Council for Sustainable Development.” Should Seven Seas violate the terms and conditions of its
SEP clearance, Devanadera said that they would have to face financial and/or
other forms of penalties. It could also be a reason for their suspension.
Seven Seas properties misleading artist renderings
of guest rooms for their ocean park.
The community could benefit from the project in terms of
jobs and revenues for the local government. With tourists, they would also be
educated about nature, he said.
“Our concept really is eco-tourism, so we plan to respect
the environment and rules and regulations of the Palawan Council,” (This is the council that gave permits for a COAL FIRED PLANT) Cortes said.
“And of course by helping Palawan in eco-tourism we also create jobs and promote the area as well. We do
understand that in doing eco-tourism we also have to respect of course, the
need for environmental preservation. We’ve always done that. We’ve shown over
the last few years what we have done in Manila Ocean Park.”
(This is in partnership with Hotel Centro. When they ran Kamia Bay resort they brought in immigrant employees from Puerto Princesa City, the only local jobs they gave were clean up jobs!)
Kamia bay resort in Turtle bay at sunset.
But Palawan-based environmental lawyer Gerthie Mayo Anda has
another take on the issue. “It’s not just simply tourism. There are always
consequences for any type of developmental activity. Eco-tourism theoretically
is good, but then, how you implement it is another challenge,” she told
InterAksyon.com in a phone interview.
It is vital for locals to be consulted and informed about
the project’s impacts, both positive and negative.
“The law talks about informed participation,” she said,
citing Presidential Decree 1586 on the Philippine Environmental Statement
System. “For development plans, it’s important that the people in Puerto
Princesa and Palawan should already start identifying the appropriate
development projects in their area. Because what happens is that we are reactive,
rather than being proactive and saying, ‘I think in this area this will be more
ecologically suitable.’”
This is lacking in the Philippines as a whole, she noted.
For example, Filipinos are now preparing for a big
earthquake. In the same way, they should be proactive in deciding the various
uses of land.
Asian small clawed otters of Turtle and Binunsalian bays.
“I hope people will understand what the use of a particular
area is, and what its value to them is. I think the scientific data in the
researches there need to be disseminated. Otherwise the people will not find
value on what they’re losing,” Anda added.
Biodiversity and the wildlife specialists should also be
consulted so that the community will be even more enlightened about the
project’s consequences.“Ganyan lagi ang problema natin sa Pilipinas eh. Dahil
pagkakaperahan, okay na tayo (That is always our problem here in the
Philippines. Just because we will earn from it, we’re okay with It),” she said.
Turtle bay is a fish nursery as well.
Leave it as such.
She also noted that the ordinance which supposedly created
the marine sanctuary should be examined. If Turtle Bay was indeed a marine
sanctuary, it should be a “no-go zone.” The wildlife should be left alone.
Should activity be allowed there, the law needs to be amended, Anda said.
Meanwhile, Cortes could not yet say when construction could
begin as they were still processing their permits.
A large blue jelly fish at the mouth of a river flowing into Turtle bay.
Ruffous backed kingfisher of Turtle bay.
Only a Few of the 108 varieties of bivalves and gastropods. In plain English, those are clams and shells.)
HERE is a copy of the SEP PERMIT by PCSD. Notice on the signature page, which is notarized, the name is missing, as well as name above signature and date. Yet is was duly notarized.
I suggest we boycott Hotel Centro and email them to back out of their partnership with Seven Seas and retain the old Kamia Bay resort, which is already built, and put in better management policies....who closes a resort at 4PM?
This is the reply of Mr. Art Ventura, former Executive Director of PCSD when he was invited by one of the staff as their "former boss" to celebrate the 23rd anniversary of R.A. 7611 known as the "SEP Law", a unique law that was created supposedly for the protection of Palawan.
Google earth view of Kamia/Turtle bay.
Click to enlarge. Click here to download a full report and
Study of Turtle Bay, where in they missed
the nocturnal otters.
Turtle bay was given protected Marine sanctuary status by Puerto Princesa City Ordinance No. 13-92. I have since been told it was conveniently rezoned to accommodate construction for tourism purposes.
Turtle bay is a one of a kind marine sanctuary in Palawan, it is unique in it's diversity. It is a mangrove nursery for fish and other sea life. It is home to the already vulnerable Asian Small clawed otters. Otters are nocturnal, so not many people get to see them, so they go ignored in environmental studies.
This is beautiful and natural Turtle bay, home to such diverse marine biodiversity. On the far side of the bay is where Seven Seas will put the Ocean Park. Isn't this sad? Photo by Puerto Princesa City.
Down one of the fresh water rivers running into the bay, is a magnificent old growth mangrove forest. It is a real gem of nature. There are 108 varieties of molluscs, therein, two of which are classified as rare. The corals in the cove are just now recovering from past cyanide fishing, but there are mound just now abounding with new corals and more fish. The bay is shallow and brackish and full of silt from the mangroves but it harbors so much life. Turtle bay is a beautiful natural ocean park with a sustainable ecosystem in place. It should remain a marine sanctuary. The biodiversity is too delicate to mess with.
"Turtle Bay is a fish breeding ground therefore the problems in Turtle Bay
have an impact on other areas, for fewer fish will mature and leave Turtle Bay which will result in the decline of
populations elsewhere." From this report.
Brief History In August of 1992, researchers from MSI and UTAH University conducted a project to identify sponges in the coastal areas of Palawan. A letter was later sent by Dr. Ed Gomez requesting the City Government to declare Binunsalian Bay a marine sanctuary. A group of concerned citizens organized and lobbied with the City government. In November of 1992, Binunsalian Bay was declared by the government as a marine reserve. Concerned citizen designed a program for the marine reserve and presented it to the City government. In 1993, Binunsalian Bay Foundation Inc. was formally organized.
Binunsalian Bay Foundation, Inc.
Address: No 29 Malvar street, Puerto, Princesa City, 5300 Palawan Philippines
Contact Person: Ernesto Santa Cruz
I know all of this about Turtle/Kamia bay because I am a resident of the area; only 3 minutes from this bay, and I have been documenting the bay and cove, as well as rescuing its orphaned otters from human encroachment.
Now, a large company, Seven Seas properties wants to put in a man made Ocean Park. It will totally mar and even destroy the ecosystem in the bay. I believe they did not give full disclosure on the extent and scope of the development to Palawan Council for Sustainable Development (PCSD). Perhaps they conned our city Government and local barangay officials into signing the permits for them to build a monstrosity which will totally disrupt, if not destroy this sanctuary. For a development to deface a bay that affects all of Palawan, a broader, more informed public should be allowed to have their say!
The company has already started an Ocean park in Boracay on Puka beach, without an ECC permit and, which has come under the scrutiny of environmental groups. There is nothing in their proposed design plan, accommodations, activities etc is environmentally sane or safe for the marine sanctuary, called Turtle Bay and Binunsalian Bay. I believe the city of Puerto Princesa, and PCSD (Palawan Council for Sustainable Development) were mislead to the scope of the development. Nor made aware damage to the existing flora and fauna, the buildings touted on their website would do.
I believe, that since this bay is an important part of the native ecosystem of Palawan in general, a broader and larger participation by those living in Palawan and or wishing to visit its pristine nature, should be informed and encouraged. I believe the permits were given prematurely for the scope of the project and impact on the environment.
The corals in Turtle bay are in recovery mode from past cyanide fishing and perhaps, improper casting of anchors by fishermen seeking safe harbor from storms there. Yet it hosts a wide variety of sea life. Dugongs once fed on the sea grasses at the mouth of the cove, but are no more. Otters live along it's mangrove habitat and frolic in the moonlight, chattering away. This bay is a natural gem, why put in a FAKE ocean park when the one there is fine the way it is?
Pristine Binusalian akaTurtle Bay. Lined with mangroves that give life to fish, crabs and other sea life. Can you imagine Villas over this. Many of the mangroves will have to be cleared to give access to them. I know it sounds delightful...but no, leave it alone, Come visit it in a kayak and enjoy the peace and quiet. Do you want to the the hotel below or see it in its natural state?
This is one of the ATTRACTIONS ON SEVEN SEA WEBSITES; "Aviary Section
Meet formidable coastal raptors called Brahminy Kites and feed them by hand as they glide near you. Take a leisurely stroll in the Lorie Canopy Walk and let friendly lories rest on your shoulders while feeding." Under the ACCOMMODATIONS they say, "Aviary Hotel
Would you rather see the pristine mangroves or this hotel with captive wild birds to feed from your balcony? Although tempting, they don't need to be captured to for real bird watchers to see. They already ARE wild..DO NOT NET THEM IN.
This is Turtle bay as it is today. Pristine and peaceful.
This is the depiction of a hotel guest room on Turtle/Kamia Bay as they propose. This bay is not deep enough without dredging for such features. The water is always silty from the mangroves, not crisp and clear as pictured.
This is the vision of Turtle Bay from their website for Turtle Bay. Which would you want to see? They offer an Oceanarium - "Witness the best of marine life with an awesome display of manta rays, whale sharks, dugongs and sun fishes." (There are no more dugongs in Turtle Bay. I am in that bay many times a week in our native banca and there are no dugongs there. Where will they get the dugongs? Sun fishes? Are you kidding me? The brackish water in the bay will kill them and it's certainly not deep enough, nor food naturally food occurring for it. WHALE SHARKS? Now they are dreaming and living in a fairy tale.Talk about hell on earth for any of the aforementioned sea creatures forced to live in that bay.)
Peaceful and important marine sanctuary, where fish go to lay eggs and otters frolic.
This baby otter was already a victim of human encroachment into Turtle bay. Dogs killed it's siblings. This little guy was only a day or two old, and although he gave it his best shot, he died after 5 days. Asian small clawed otters mate for life! The parents remain Alpha and each subsequent liter of pups raises each other until. They can form family groups up to 10 or 12 members. They do not leave the parents until one of the parents dies, up to 10 years, or is killed.
Poor one or two day old Asian small clawed otter pup, so beautiful and sweet. A life lost to human encroachment onto the mangrove shores of Turtle bay.
The photo below shows this Ocean Park in Boracay and how much damage they have done to the last green and pristine areas. Only now, the residents are finding out AFTER they have already done great damage to the mangroves and pristine areas. Environment groups are now questioning this move. Are we to trust them not to destroy Turtle/Kamia Bay as well?
The author of this post on Facebook said about this; "The beginning of the end of our beloved Puka Beach. This aerial photo was taken by Mar Schönenberger last may 13, 2015. Its the on going construction of Ocean Park 426 rooms Resort at the entrance of Puka beach in Yapak. . Do Boracay really need another resort at the expense of last remaining untouched Puka Beach? We have been sleeping while they sneaked in. Wake up LGU of Malay. No more Greed more Green (not the color of money). To all Puka Beach lovers, pls Share this post!" Recently it has become known that Seven Seas razed this property and some of the last forests in Boracay without an ECC permit accoding to DENR. http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/701554/denr-boracay-resort-being-built-on-timberland-without-ecc
This is obviously a developer who thinks he can do what he wants for profit. Although the words on their website sound good, they seem to not have one care for the environment or nature.
This is a photo of Puka beach in Boracay, BEFORE the Ocean park development. Too late, it is being scrutinized by environmental groups.
The photo below shows Kamia Bay Resort, the original developer as it stands today. How can all the buildings Seven Seas is touting on their website without destroying the whole little peninsula Kamia Resort is on. The roads are narrow and so steep, they made people park at the entrance, and had their own vans take people to the restaurant shown below. At the bottom of the hill, there is only parking for two or three vans, with a tight space to turn around.
Where will they put the shopping malls, world class marina, croc viewing area, dolphin cages, large 400 room hotel with balconies that face and are open to a huge area with captive native raptors?
Why put up a FAKE ocean park when nature in Turtle bay is already a NATURAL MARVEL. I say leave the bay alone.
The little peninsula that Kamia Resort is on, is quite small. The roads, steep and and narrow. Try to Imagine a shopping mall, world class marina, captive dolphins viewed from guest rooms. A 400 Room hotel with caged in aviary. It all just simply won't fit without completely redoing nature as it is. Imagine the hillside in the photo below with all the proposed buildings!! This is a small peninsula! They will have to totally remove any natural vegetation to put in all those buildings.
Let's just say, PCSD did not give permits for CAPTIVE imported dolphins, whale sharks, sun fish and dugongs. THEN WHY does Seven Seas property have photos of such on their website? Isn't that FALSE ADVERTISING in the least?
A beautiful starfish in Turtle bay.. Nardoa tuberculata- Warty Mesh Sea Star-
The magnificent Rufous backed kingfisher feeds in Turtle bay mangroves.
This is a photo from Seven Seas Properties for the Kamia bay Ocean Park.
Oceanarium - according to Seven Seas, "Witness the best of marine life with an awesome display of manta rays, whale sharks, dugongs and sun fishes." (There are no more dugongs in Turtle Bay. I am in that bay many times a week in our native banca and there are no dugongs there. Where will they get the dugongs? Sun fishes? Are you kidding me? The brackish water in the bay will kill them and it's certainly not deep enough, nor food naturally food occurring for it.
This is the view of Turtle/Kamia bay from the south highway.
Kiss this lovely view goodbye. Just imagine all their buildings replacing the green mangroves and habitat. Imagine yachts and motor boats and a "WORLD CLASS MARINA" instead of this. A "PLACE TO SEE AND BE SEEN". What? Who cares...go away.
At the mouth of Turtle bay the native Kamia Bay resort is a much better fit for the delicate ecosystem in Turtle/Kamia/Binunsalian Bay!
HERE IS A FULL LIST OF ACCOMMODATIONS THEY WANT TO BUILD IN THE tiny, shallow cove of Turtle bay. http://sevenseasproperties.com/properties/puerto-princesa/ Aviary Hotel
A bird paradise themed accommodation featuring a bird enclosure where you get the chance to see and feed brahminy kites in the comfort of your room's balcony. (Why do that when beautiful birds already live in the mangroves?)
Copper throated sun bird by Rommel Cruz
Oceanarium Villas
Surrounded with azure crystal waters, these deluxe accommodations make a truly vibrant island feel to your vacation.
Shark Villas
A two level elegant room with lagoon views on the upper floor and a breathtaking underwater view on the lower floor
Hillside Villas
Have a scenic view on top with hillside detached villas fronting the bay
Mangrove Hotel
Bask in exceptional views of the sea and mangrove forests in this opulent set of rooms
Click to enlarge
Mangrove Villas
Elegant rooms on stilts provide a perfect holiday charm to your stay.
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PROPOSED ATTRACTIONS
Croc Cage"Immerse in an exhilarating crocodile diving experience with some the largest saltwater reptiles in the world. An acrylic, cylindrical shaped cage will let you have an up close session with crocodiles in a 360 degree clear view. See these prehistoric creatures like no other."http://sevenseasproperties.com/properties/puerto-princesa/ No Thanks! We already have the Crocodile farm in Irawan. No need to destroy a marine sanctuary which should be left as a natural park for tourists to enjoy, as is.
Oceanarium "Witness the best of marine life with an awesome display of manta rays, whale sharks, dugongs and sun fishes."
Mangrove Exhibit
Forest mangroves are one of the most productive and complex ecosystems in the world. Known to have originated from Southeast Asia, these biological marvels are home to a diverse array of flora and fauna.
Aviary Section
Meet formidable coastal raptors called Brahminy Kites and feed them by hand as they glide near you. Take a leisurely stroll in the Lorie Canopy Walk and let friendly lories rest on your shoulders while feeding.
Croc Cage
Immerse in an exhilarating crocodile diving experience with some the largest saltwater reptiles in the world. An acrylic, cylindrical shaped cage will let you have an up close session with crocodiles in a 360 degree clear view. See these prehistoric creatures like no other.
Dolphin Cove
"Swim with these lovable marine mammals in the open sea. Take a photo and have a memorable time together." ( Yes there are dolphins OUTSIDE of Turtle/Kamia bay. It's a seasonal thing, but they ARE NOT held captive!)
Stingray Cove
Go beyond the waves and as you touch and take a dip with friendly stingrays in an engaging and cool attraction.
1. Write to Palawan Council for Sustainable Development and ask to see the permits given to Seven Seas. They are public documents there are 5 pages that were notarized..so you should get all 5 pages not the two they have been giving out. Ask them to reconsider the scope of the project and keep Turtle bay protected from large motorized yachts and boats. Here is there official website http://pcsd.gov.ph/ Write to them directly - http://pcsd.gov.ph/contact-us/
I cannot say whether is infographic is true, but it is indeed alarming for such a developer to be remotely associated with a habit of capturing dolphins for his developments. It was posted by Sea Shephard Singapore
HERE is a copy of the SEP PERMIT by PCSD. Notice on the signature page, which is notarized, the name is missing (which IS HOTEL CENTRO), as well as name above signature and date as well. Yet is was duly notarized. ALSO IT IS PAGE 5 OF 5 and only two pages were given to person requesting the copies. What is on the other pages that cannot be seen? I thought all pages were public documents.
